It is not often that you get to catch up with a world renowned magician, get to know more about his art and how his lives his life on a day to day basis. We however got a chance to talk to Ishamuddin Khan (ranked 20th on this list of world’s greatest magicians). He is the only magician in the world who can successfully complete a version of the Indian Rope Trick, the Great Mango Trick and a few others you wouldn’t even heard of.
Following are some of the excerpts from the interview.
Q: If you had a short introduction, what would it be?
IK: Well I am Ishamuddin Khan. I am from Delhi and I belong to the Madari clan of Muslims. We were originally Muslim Faqirs who practiced magic and performed street shows. We were famous for our street performances like the Indian rope trick, snake charming and acrobatics. I am merely continuing this lost art.
Q: We have heard that you are the only magician in the world to successfully complete a version of the Indian Rope Trick, described as the best illusion in the world. Is this true?
IK: Traditionally the Indian Rope trick would mean rising a coiled rope infinitely into the sky, until it can’t be seen. A child then climbs the rope followed by the magician. Both of them disappear from sight and then after a while parts of the child’s body start falling from the sky, like the hand, torso etc. Then the magician appears and lays a cloth over the parts. On removing the cloth the child is a whole again.
Of course it is not possible to reconstruct all these events and no one in history has done it. What I do is make a 20 feet coiled rope rise in air until it becomes completely rigid. After this one of my assistants climb this rope for about 8 feet and then come down. The rope then collapses back to its coiled state. I then have people check the rope for any abnormalities.
Q: Could you tell us where have you performed these tricks?
IK: I first performed this trick in 1995 in South Delhi. That was when I gained my recognition. You will be surprised to know that I did perform this trick in Manipal also, Malpe beach way back in 1997. There was a good crowd in and media was also present to see the spectacle. Since then I have travelled to France, Sweden, Ireland, England, Austria, Norway and Germany amongst many others to showcase the same trick and much more.
Q: Is there no place in India where one can learn magic?
IK: Sadly no! In places like France and England they have societies or schools where you can learn magical arts. There is proper infrastructure and they have the resources to train people into learning magic, all of which is absent in India. This is one of the reasons why the best magicians in the world come from countries abroad and not India even though historically India was known as the Land of snake charmers and magicians. In fact, I was astonished to see that even beggars have certificates given the French government claiming them so. They casually sip on wine as they are begging. More so, they even have credit card machines so that people can make their donations through credit cards also.
Q: Given a chance, pick a country that you would like to settle in besides India.
IK: Oh I love Sweden. Given a chance and the resources I would love to go and settle there. But then I love India. “Jo baat yahan ki teen rupee ki chai me hai wo whan kahn” (there is no better fun in tea worth three rupees here than anywhere.)
Q: Sir, tell us something about your family. We hear that you have a son who has gone to Japan to do shows with u?
IK: I took him to Japan where we performed together. I do not want him to continue this profession. I have enrolled my daughter in a school. She is the first from our tribe to go to a school due to which I have also been disowned by my own people. Unfortunately that is the way the society works, you can’t please everyone.
Q: Would you like to teach people (kids) if they wanted to learn magic?
IK: I would have taught them and my children as well. Unfortunately we do not have a module or even the basic infrastructure to teach them magic here and with the skills I have acquired one cannot rise above a certain level. That is why I do not want them to go into this profession.
Q: When you travel abroad who sponsors your trips?
IK: “Sab Allah Bharose” (Everything is in the hands of God). Sometimes i get good journalists who sponsor my trips. There aren’t many NGOs’ either. Even if there are, most of them are illiterate and can’t understand how things work. It falls even before things make up.
Q: The condition of Indian madaaris, jugglers and acrobats is sympathetic. What do you think can be done to uplift them?
IK: Here in India, no one cares about talent and if a person does not have the resources to take his/her talent to the next level, they are simply left behind. Many such people live in poverty. There is no government recognition. That should be the first step. Simply classifying them as SC and ST’s will not help. They need aid and infrastructure to bring themselves up.
By,
Rohan Tuli and Deeksha Awasthi
Photos by: Tejasvi Batria
Sub edited by: Deeksha Awasthi